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Post by Marcus on Apr 30, 2008 6:14:00 GMT -5
They have announced that they will be filming The Hobbit as 2 films with Peter Jackson producing, and the director who did Hellboy and Pan's Labrinth will Direct.
Don't know anything else at moment.
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Post by Werewolf on Apr 30, 2008 8:50:06 GMT -5
I'm quite a big fan of Guillermo Del Toro so i'm looking forwars to seeing what he does with the Hobbit. I did hear that Ian McKellen has said he would be interested to play Gandalf again. I would who they'll cast as Bilbo?
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Post by keywolf on Apr 30, 2008 11:45:04 GMT -5
I love Del Toro's stuff and I guess I'm looking forward to the Hobbit, but mostly I'm annoyed as it means he won't get time to do 2 movies he had planned anytime soon-
3993, the third part of the civil war trilogy, and At the Mountains of Madness, an epic adaptation of a great HP Lovecraft story. I want to see these so much more than the Hobbit.
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Post by Marcus on May 1, 2008 3:42:30 GMT -5
The Hobbit looks to have a 2010 release time at the moment.
And I'd rather like to see that Mountains of Madness one too.
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Post by keywolf on May 1, 2008 12:56:16 GMT -5
Have you read much Lovecraft Marcus? I only got into his stuff recently via Stephen King, and now I'm totally hooked...
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Post by Werewolf on May 2, 2008 2:00:52 GMT -5
I've never read any Lovecraft. Which ones are the best?
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Post by Marcus on May 2, 2008 3:17:02 GMT -5
I've not read any Lovecraft either.
I used to play the Cthulu RPG which is based on Lovecraft's books. I'm not a big reader of horror (though I did get into Brian Lumley's necroscope series).
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Post by Werewolf on May 2, 2008 3:49:13 GMT -5
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Post by Marcus on May 2, 2008 4:43:34 GMT -5
Excellent. I hope the actor they get to play Bilbo looks enough like a younger version of Ian Holm for it to mesh well with the current films. I wonder how they'll present this flm, as it's a much lighter book than LoTRs. According to studio New Line, the first film will be an adaptation of The Hobbit and the second will be an original story focusing on the 60 years between the book and the beginning of the Rings trilogy. This worries me. sticking in a movie between the Hobbit and LOTR seems unnecessary and if it's centred on the hobbits really boring as nothing happened to them in those years apart from growing older! I can only guess that it'll be centred on other characters, Aragon maybe? or Gandalf? It'll be tricky as the only characters from both the Hobbit and LoTR is gandalf and Bilbo, golem, oh and Elrond a bit. There's a lot of additional literature written as well as timelines and such, and if they do this wrong it'll annoy a lot of people. I think it's a silly idea. I suppose they could show things like, the retaking of isgiliath (sp) by Boromir or maybe jump back a bit and show Gandalf's attack on the Necromancer, I just guess we'll have to wait and see what storyline they come up with. If they'd wanted to do another film, why not adapt one of his other books? like the Silmarilion (sp) or something. |
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Post by keywolf on May 3, 2008 9:12:25 GMT -5
Silmarillion (or whatever) is set in the same world isn't it, maybe they could work with some of that stuff for the second movie. Bit puzzled about the decision myself.
And on the subject of Lovecraft, some of his best stuff is collected into a penguin book called The Call of Cthulhu and other weird stories, it's a good one to start with and includes a fair few stories that you may have seen the movies of (eg Re-Animator, Dagon, Castle Freak).
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Post by Werewolf on May 3, 2008 13:21:38 GMT -5
Isn't the Silmarillion the story of how the Rings of Power were created? Perhaps they should do that first and then the Hobbit?  ? Although I've heard the Silmarillion is a real bitch to read, really hard going. I can't think of an actor who i think could play a young bilbo. They actually used Ian Holm for a flashback to Gollum's cave in LOTR. I wonder if they might consider using him? Stranger things have happened i suppose. Although i'm guessing they'll recast. As this will be a Guillermo flick i wonder what role he'll cast Ron Perlman in! Plus will they go in the same direction with Gollum? |
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Post by Marcus on May 5, 2008 2:53:40 GMT -5
I'd imagine they'd try to reprise the actors that they can for the characters that appaer in the Hobbit as well as LoTR. So I'd have thought they'd try to bring back the actors for Golem, Elrond, and gandalf. Who knows they may offer camioes for some of the other characters - maybe Legolas walking past in the Elven halls?
and yes, the Silmarillion is a hard read. Half the book/story is in the appendix. Ive never been able to read it fully.
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Post by darkwolfavenged on May 6, 2008 7:53:45 GMT -5
Yeah - as I understand it Silmarillion is about the ancient history and mythology of Middle Earth, set a long, long time before The Hobbit and LOTR.
I think a linking film with The Hobbit and LOTR would be great....especially as Del Toro and Jackson will be doing it. They can mine the tons of backstory from Rings and bring in Gandalf, Aragorn, Arwen, Elrond and some of the other characters.
I have total faith in this.
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Post by Werewolf on May 6, 2008 8:01:15 GMT -5
Perhaps they could go back and look at Aragon's story. How his mother came to bring him to the elves etc?
I'm sure Del Toro will do a bang up job. His stuff is always great!
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Post by Marcus on May 6, 2008 8:29:32 GMT -5
Isn't the Silmarillion the story of how the Rings of Power were created? Quoted from Wiki - "The Silmarillion comprises five parts. The first part, Ainulindalë, tells of the creation of Eä, the world. Valaquenta, the second part, gives a description of the Valar and Maiar, the supernatural powers in Eä. The next section, Quenta Silmarillion, which forms the bulk of the collection, chronicles the history of the events before and during the First Age. The fourth part, Akallabêth, relates the history of the Downfall of Númenor and its people, which takes place in the Second Age. The final part, Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age, is a brief account of the circumstances which led to and were presented in The Lord of the Rings." Brief not on Eä, Valar, Maiar: Eä is basically God - or at least a "creator being" who made everything else. He sang it into existance. (magic in middle earth is outside the song which is why the Istari (eg gandalf) try to use as little magic as possible. The Valar were his first "people" and their job was to oversee and impliment Eä's wishes within the Great Song. Each had an aspect that was their's - Earth, Sea, Animals, etc etc. It was the Valar that created the races of Elf, Man, Dwarf, etc and were worshipped as gods by many cultures. Notable Valar include: Morgoth (aka Melkor - sauron's boss). The Maiar were the "angels" of the Valar (in an inaccurate way). The servants if you like. Notable Maiar include: Gandalf, Saruman, Sauron, Balrogs. Ok, I'll stop now, before I bore people. |
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? Although I've heard the Silmarillion is a real bitch to read, really hard going. 