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Post by Marcus on Sept 9, 2009 6:35:00 GMT -5
You could have the vampires with a perminant monstrous form, rather than having them shift from a "human" one to a "monster" one. And, give them a glamour psychic ability, which acts as a kind of mask/projection so people don't seem them as the monster but as a person. Then when they become angry or too distracted the glamour fails and people see them as they truely are (the older vamps probably have more control over this glamour than the younger ones, able to even project it out to effect peoples perceptions of the surroundings too?
You could use this Glamour ability to reflect other aspects of vampire legendary powers - ie instead of being able to become mist, they glamour people into not seeing them - but this doesn't turn them invisible, so the persons eye can see them, but the information is twisted when it reaches the bain, so it makes them leave a haze or heatshimmer effect. The "not visible in a mirror" could be changed so that the person sees the vampires true appearance when reflected, due to the glamour only effecting what people see when they actually look at the vampire more so than it effecting another object (ie the mirror) - older/more powerful vampires could negate this weakness if you , as suggested above, allow their glamour ability to improve so they can effect their surroundings, thus people see the glamour when looking in the mirror instead of the monster.
If you wanted to link werewolves and vampires together, you could have it that it was the vampires that created the werewolves (originally werejackles) in egypt during the conficts with Ra. That they saw how useful the werecats were, and fashioned their own version - choosing an animal that was a preditor to the cats. - and later when they moved into europe and elsewhere, where jackles were not available, they used other canines, mainly wolves. And over time the werewolves broke away from their creators forming into their own race of beings.
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Post by mau on Sept 12, 2009 23:10:33 GMT -5
Hmm. Well I like the idea for the werewolves being created by vampires, and originally being werejackels, but how would they necessarily go from being jackels to wolves? It doesn't seem to make sense, but the use of the werewolves by the vampires would make sense to combat the werecats. I'm not so sure about the glamour ability. I kind of prefer the shapeshifting myself.
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Post by Marcus on Sept 14, 2009 5:31:24 GMT -5
The transfer from jackel to wolf would be when the vampires were driven out of egypt - or migrated or left on their own choice (however you wanted their spread to start).
At this point the creation of werejackels were still within the control of the vampire, and so when the numbers of their troops were reducing due to various factors, they looked around for more jackels to create more weres, but of course there are none in europe, so they used the closest animal that was available, ie the wolf.
It was only after the werewolves gained their freedom from the vampires that they worked out a way to create more of their own kind - probably by kidnapping one or more vampires who knew the secret and torturing them into giving up the secrets and maybe even modifying the next lot of werewolves created, enabling the werewolves to propgate themselves.
I admit having the vampires shapeshift does link nicely with the werewolf/jackel - as with the vampires being able to shapeshift this gave them the reason why when they created the werejackels that they did it from the view point of shapeshifting.
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Post by mau on Oct 13, 2010 22:05:57 GMT -5
This might be moot point to post this but...I kind of gave up on this particular story. But I haven't given up on the idea of a werecat story. I've come up with several ideas, but one in particular will focus specifically on werecats alone since I don't think they've had much of a chance to shine as much as werewolves and vampires have. Although I like the idea of a werewolf/werecat fight, but perhaps sometime in the future. Right now I just need to try to focus on one idea at a time...and when I've always got new ideas cranking in my head it's hard to do that. I think I might have just a little ADD haha.
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Post by hawkeyepierce on Oct 14, 2010 1:31:41 GMT -5
I'm the sort of person who get's 3 creative ideas before breakfast, but I only commit to paper the ones that keep coming back to me. A little trick I learned from whatching 'The Beatles Anthology'...if you (the artist) can't remember your briliant idea after a couple of days, how is your audience going to? In the end it's all about your personal preference, some have a notepad handy 24/7, personally I can;t be bothered because after a week or so I realise my idea is crap and I move on. After a while one briliant idea will keep coming back to me, that's the one I go for... And Isn't having new idea's every 30 seconds wonderfull? Personally, I think it's great when people are unstopable fantasy-machines, so dude - go for it! ;D Or combine some of those storylines, werecat spectacular with an added subplot about drugabuse and bondage? why not?!
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Post by Moonreaper on Oct 14, 2010 17:13:12 GMT -5
Ah yes great philosophy, but some of the greatest songs were written on the spot as fillers. Fillers, for those who dont know, are songs made up in a very shot time due to free space on an album during recording. Sweet Child of Mine by Guns and Roses, Paranoid by Ozzy, and many more all written in a matter of hours maybe less.
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Post by mau on Oct 14, 2010 19:46:26 GMT -5
So what happens if you've got 3 or 4 ideas that stick with you at a time? I think what happens is I try to go with a variation of one, and try to work with it. If it gets too complicated, I scrap it. Though with school and work it makes it a little hard. But maybe when I'm done with school I'll have more time to focus on writing a story. Some of my ideas have nothing to do with shape shifters at all. I came up with a decent werewolf storyline, then decided to combine some aspects of that story into a werecat story. I like werewolves quite a bit, but as a cat person, it'd be nice to see some "felinethropy." I've always been fascinated with the idea of being able to shape shift into an animal, be it a wolf, cat, bird, or any other bizarre creature. I also like the idea of something being something in between. So I like shapeshifters and "anthros." I like vampires too...but I find the concept of the werewolf more fascinating.
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Post by Moonreaper on Oct 14, 2010 20:39:33 GMT -5
Complication is never a bad thing, its writters block that will get ya. I just finished a screen play that took me about two months to finish. Now I just started writting another and two weeks into it I only have about two and a half pages. One thing you dont want to do is rush it and sometimes its easier to solve complications when you start putting it on paper. NEVER scrap an idea, you can never have enough ideas. Even one that seems dumb may work itself out in the future and lead to something great.
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Post by hawkeyepierce on Oct 15, 2010 12:37:22 GMT -5
So what happens if you've got 3 or 4 ideas that stick with you at a time? Make 3 or 4 Kick Ass stories! ;D Personally I don't like to force stories either. If it doesn't come it doesn't come, in those cases I say 'fudge it, let's do something else', but I know plenty of people who swear forcing your story out to the point where you get nosebleeds is the best way to create art. It's what works for you!
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Post by Moonreaper on Oct 15, 2010 18:02:44 GMT -5
Everyones different.
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Post by necrodemon on Oct 16, 2010 21:24:00 GMT -5
Moonreaper I agree. I do the same with lyrics and guitar riffs for songs. Some stuff sits on the shelf until later. Our song "The Deep Freeze" was written in 1999 musically and had different lyrics and I just never liked it. It never saw use again until 2005. Then I changed the song with new lyrics and a different ending and it is now one of my favorite to play live on stage.
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Post by Moonreaper on Oct 17, 2010 12:19:44 GMT -5
Im the same way with music as well. Some songs I write sound good at the moment back dont age well. Some songs I try to rush and record before I get tired of them. I just wrote one lst week inspired by Manson Im eager to get on track before I loose it.
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Post by hawkeyepierce on Oct 18, 2010 9:02:15 GMT -5
Marlyn or Charles?
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Post by Moonreaper on Oct 18, 2010 17:15:54 GMT -5
Marilyn
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Post by necrodemon on Oct 19, 2010 19:18:16 GMT -5
Uh oh
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