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Post by dedwyre on Aug 2, 2007 10:15:21 GMT -5
The CGI transformations I think, tend to be too quick, and tend to gloss over the pain such body morphing would be. They also tend to try to make the transformation look cool rather than painful. Which for me jars against how I think it should be. I think it depends on the aim of the film. John Landis very much wanted to make his transformation scene the antithesis of the traditional stop-motion-while-sitting-still transformation scene from the old movies. Imagine of the TF scenes in "Underworld: Evolution" had been as drawn-out as David Naughton's. Seline would have had ample time to put a few bullets in their heads, and we wouldn't have had the ending fight scene. Meanwhile, movies like "Blood & Chocolate" are trying to keep the story going, so they don't want to focus so much on transformations. And I think "The Howling" is an example of a film that went for the drawn out TF scene, and it ended up hurting it a little. |
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Post by Marcus on Aug 2, 2007 10:56:15 GMT -5
I see your point and understand that the duration of transformations last as long as the film maker wants it to for the plot/situation. I just prefer them to take a little time. That duration it takes should be a weakness of the werewolf, rather than something that the film makers would prefer to remove so they can get on with the fight scene.
I think it has a lot to do with if they are trying to portray the transformation as mystic or disease.
Though i didn't notice the Howling transformations causing any problem in the flow of the film for me.
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Post by ArcLight on Aug 2, 2007 13:01:50 GMT -5
Though i didn't notice the Howling transformations causing any problem in the flow of the film for me. It's been long enough now that I can sometimes look at it with a critical eye and go "yeah, it does kinda stop the film." At the time it came out tho, it was fine. Nothing like that had been seen before (AWIL came out later) and the audience was just as in awe of what was happening as Karen was. If it makes it easier, you can always assume that the transformation only takes half as long as it was shown on screen, as the shots of Karen's reactions are happening at the same time as the shots of Eddie's changing. Or not. Either way, it'll likely always be my favorite werewolf movie and favorite transformation. |
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Post by dedwyre on Aug 2, 2007 16:41:21 GMT -5
Eddie's transformation did turn out to be a weakness for him later, because he got shot while trying to do it. You got lucky the first time!
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Post by ArcLight on Aug 2, 2007 19:47:47 GMT -5
I also think he was doing it nice and slow to savor Karen's fear. Chris had other things to worry about...and silver bullets.
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Post by Werewolf on Aug 3, 2007 2:57:59 GMT -5
Felt quite sorry for Eddie, i was really hoping he'd get her cos i was sick of hearing her scream!
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Post by werewolves on Aug 6, 2007 12:22:29 GMT -5
van helsing, aawil/p every transformation
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Post by darrenkamp on Aug 13, 2007 23:17:43 GMT -5
Hands down, AWIL. Howling comes in at #2. I have to agree with Ginger Snaps as well. As far as CG goes (which it shouldn't GO as much as it does), Van Helsing was actually really good.
A bad one? Howling: New Moon Rising. I think I literally laughed...and then punched myself for watching the whole damn movie...
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Post by Werewolf on Aug 14, 2007 2:49:11 GMT -5
A bad one? Howling: New Moon Rising. I think I literally laughed...and then punched myself for watching the whole damn movie... Try not to hurt yourself, it can't have been as bad as DarkWolf! |
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Post by keywolf on Aug 14, 2007 15:09:42 GMT -5
Unfortunately it's worse....
In my opinion anyway. I couldn't sit through Howling 7 all in one go. Kept pausing it do other things, probably took most of a day to watch it!
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Post by ArcLight on Aug 14, 2007 23:44:49 GMT -5
Howling 7 is the worst werewolf movie I've ever seen. "Werewolf" (or "Arizona Werewolf" if you prefer - anyway the one from '96 with Richard Lynch) is darn close but I'll give the nod to Howling 7 just because I love "The Howling" so much that 7 makes me sad on a separate level over and above it just being a sucky werewolf movie.
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Post by Werewolf on Aug 15, 2007 2:19:45 GMT -5
I'll have to watch it just to see.
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Post by keywolf on Aug 15, 2007 3:47:06 GMT -5
As far as I remember the werewolf is on screen for less than two minutes of the extremely drawn out 90 minute running time. Incidentally, the second worst werewolf movie I've seen, The Lycanthrope, is on Zone Horror next tuesday night!
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Post by Werewolf on Aug 15, 2007 9:48:45 GMT -5
As far as I remember the werewolf is on screen for less than two minutes of the extremely drawn out 90 minute running time. Incidentally, the second worst werewolf movie I've seen, The Lycanthrope, is on Zone Horror next tuesday night! I have to say i really dislike movies where you see barely anything of the werewolf, AAWIL being the exception! Is The Lycanthorpe the one where the scientist thinks he is turning into a werewolf? |
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Post by keywolf on Aug 15, 2007 12:24:40 GMT -5
Yeah, a hole in the ozone makes a guy think he has a fuzzy face.
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